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The Pair Program

Welcome to the Pair Program from hatch I.T. The podcast that delivers inside candid conversations with the innovators tackling our most critical challenges. Host Tim Winkler pairs two guests from the worlds of startups, venture capital, and emerging tech spanning defense, healthcare, cybersecurity, energy, manufacturing, and space to explore the ideas, talent, and partnerships driving mission-driven innovation.
“Two Perspectives. One Mission.”

Recent Episodes

Designing the Impossible: AI, Quantum Mechanics, and the Future of Materials | The Pair Program Ep95
May 19, 2026

Designing the Impossible: AI, Quantum Mechanics, and the Future of Materials | The Pair Program Ep95

Designing the Impossible: AI, Quantum Mechanics, and the Future of Materials | The Pair Program Ep95 In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Joseph Krause, Co-Founder and CEO of Radical AI, and Nathan Doctor, Fou...
From Services to Software: How Dual-Use AI Companies Actually Scale Inside Government | The Pair Program Ep94
May 5, 2026

From Services to Software: How Dual-Use AI Companies Actually Scale Inside Government | The Pair Program Ep94

From Services to Software: How Dual-Use AI Companies Actually Scale Inside Government | The Pair Program Ep94 In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Darren Kimura, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of AI Squa...
From Chip to Constellation: Building a New Global Network in Space | The Pair Program Ep93
April 21, 2026

From Chip to Constellation: Building a New Global Network in Space | The Pair Program Ep93

From Chip to Constellation: Building a New Global Network in Space | The Pair Program Ep93 In this episode of The Pair Program, we sit down with Jonathan Dyer, Co-Founder & CEO of Muon Space, and Alex Haro, Co-Founder & CEO o...
Mission Speed: How Commercial Innovation Is Reshaping Defense Acquisition | The Pair Program Ep92
April 7, 2026

Mission Speed: How Commercial Innovation Is Reshaping Defense Acquisition | The Pair Program Ep92

Mission Speed: How Commercial Innovation Is Reshaping Defense Acquisition | The Pair Program Ep92 In this episode of The Pair Program, we sit down with Darian Harris, Founding GP of Connected Capital and co-founder of Fuse Ac...
Contested Logistics Reimagined: The Case for Dual-Use Air Systems | The Pair Program Ep91
March 24, 2026

Contested Logistics Reimagined: The Case for Dual-Use Air Systems | The Pair Program Ep91

Contested Logistics Reimagined: The Case for Dual-Use Air Systems | The Pair Program Ep91 In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Arthur Dubois, CEO of Grid Aero, and Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Leonard Kosinski, Chief Strat...
Building Tech For Tactical Decision Dominance | The Pair Program Ep90
March 10, 2026

Building Tech For Tactical Decision Dominance | The Pair Program Ep90

Building Tech For Tactical Decision Dominance | The Pair Program Ep90 In this episode of The Pair Program, we sit down with Garrett Smith, Founder & CEO of Reveal Technology, and Les Craig, General Partner at Next Frontier Ca...

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