The Pair Program

The Pair Program

Welcome to the Pair Program from hatch I.T. The podcast that delivers inside candid conversations with the innovators tackling our most critical challenges. Host Tim Winkler pairs two guests from the worlds of startups, venture capital, and emerging tech spanning defense, healthcare, cybersecurity, energy, manufacturing, and space to explore the ideas, talent, and partnerships driving mission-driven innovation.
“Two Perspectives. One Mission.”

Recent Episodes

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Oct. 13, 2026

Open Architecture, Closed Loop: Inside Industry Partnerships for Autonomous Maritime Systems | The Pair Program Ep104

Open Architecture, Closed Loop: Inside Industry Partnerships for Autonomous Maritime Systems | The Pair Program Ep104 We’re joined by Paul Lwin, Co-Founder and CEO of Havoc, and Barry Hinckley, President of Blue Ops, a Red Cat company, to explore how software and hardware partnerships are shaping the future of uncrewed surface vessels (USVs). From open architecture and autonomy-driven vessel design to real-world testing and manufacturing at scale, the conversation looks at what it takes to move
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Sept. 29, 2026

Rethinking Medevac: Autonomy for a Contested Pacific | The Pair Program Ep103

Rethinking Medevac: Autonomy for a Contested Pacific | The Pair Program Ep103 What happens when a wounded service member needs care, but a helicopter cannot reach them? Today’s guests, Major Sarah Blackthorne of the National Guard Bureau and Ben Pinx of Lyntris, explore whether autonomous vessels could deliver blood, medical supplies, and eventually patients across contested waters. Drawing on a Northern Strike exercise, they discuss: Why traditional casualty evacuation may fail in the Indo-Pac
Sept. 15, 2026

How We Hatched: Charles Sanders, Founder and CEO of PrimeRFP

How We Hatched: Charles Sanders, Founder and CEO of PrimeRFP In this How We Hatched episode, we sit down with Charles Sanders, founder and CEO of PrimeRFP, to unpack the journey behind building an AI-native platform for government capture. Charles traces his path from taking apart electronics as a kid to working across software, infrastructure, and cybersecurity before becoming a founder. The episode takes a closer look at: How curiosity shaped Charles’s career in technology The frustration th
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Sept. 1, 2026

How Maritime Autonomy Is Proving a New Model for Defense Tech | The Pair Program Ep102

How Maritime Autonomy Is Proving a New Model for Defense Tech | The Pair Program Ep102 Maritime autonomy is becoming a test case for a shift in defense technology. In this episode, Tim and Sean sit down with Mike Flanigan, co-founder and CEO of Seasats, and Jason Chapman, co-founder of Konvoy, to explore why the future may rely less on a few exquisite, expensive platforms and more on distributed systems that can be built, deployed, and improved quickly. From operating uncrewed vessels in the Tai
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Aug. 18, 2026

From Space Domain Awareness to Space Intelligence: Building the Infrastructure for Real-Time Decision Making in Orbit | The Pair Program Ep101

From Space Domain Awareness to Space Intelligence: Building the Infrastructure for Real-Time Decision Making in Orbit | The Pair Program Ep101 On this episode of The Pair Program, we’re exploring the infrastructure behind the rapidly evolving space economy, and what it takes to turn awareness in orbit into intelligence teams can actually act on. Today’s guests are Rich Minford, COO at Turion Space, and Zachary Kirstein, CRO at Northwood. Together, they bring perspectives from both sides of the e
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July 28, 2026

How modern defense technology companies get capabilities into the hands of end users | The Pair Program Ep100

How modern defense technology companies get capabilities into the hands of end users | The Pair Program Ep100 This week on The Pair Program, we’re joined by Nick LaRovere, Co-Founder & CEO of Pryzm, and Allie Coukos, Partnerships Lead at Onebrief, for a conversation on how AI is transforming the defense technology ecosystem. Together, they explore the evolution of federal business development, why startups have more opportunities than ever to enter the government market, and how strategic partne

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