Episodes

Jan. 13, 2026

Mission Modernized: How AI is Reshaping Intelligence from the Inside …

Mission Modernized: How AI is Reshaping Intelligence from the Inside Out | The Pair Program Ep86 On today’s episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Sheetal Patel, former CIA Assistant Director for the Transnational and T...

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Jan. 6, 2026

Feeding the Beam: Powering Directed Energy & Counter-UAS | The Pair P…

Feeding the Beam: Powering Directed Energy & Counter-UAS | The Pair Program Ep85 In today’s episode, we’re joined by Adam Warmoth, Founder & CEO of Chariot Defense, and Michael LaFramboise, CEO & Co-Founder of Aurelius System...

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Dec. 23, 2025

How We Hatched with Luigi Lenguito

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Dec. 16, 2025

From Open Source to Open Skies: Why Sapphire Ventures Backed Defense …

From Open Source to Open Skies: Why Sapphire Ventures Backed Defense Unicorns | The Pair Program Ep84 In this episode of The Pair Program, we sit down with Rob Slaughter, CEO of Defense Unicorns, and Jai Das, President, Partn...

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Dec. 9, 2025

Securing the Supply Web: From the Global Network to the Tactical Edge…

Securing the Supply Web: From the Global Network to the Tactical Edge | The Pair Program Ep83 In Episode 83, Tim Winkler and Sean Leahy talk with Peter Goldsborough, Co-Founder and CTO of Rune Technologies, and Evan Smith, Co...

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Dec. 2, 2025

Runtime Confidence Meets Real-World Adoption: How AI Is Transforming …

Runtime Confidence Meets Real-World Adoption: How AI Is Transforming Traditional Industries | The Pair Program Ep82 In this episode, Tim Winkler and Mike Gruen sit down with Kevin McGrath, Co-Founder and CEO of Meibel, and Ro...

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Nov. 25, 2025

Supply Chain at Escape Velocity: How InnoFlight and Verigon Are Scali…

Supply Chain at Escape Velocity: How InnoFlight and Verigon Are Scaling Secure Space System for the SDA Era | The Pair Program Ep81 In this episode, Tim Winkler and co-host Mike Gruen sit down with Jeffrey Janicik of Innoflig...

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Nov. 18, 2025

Building Space Together: Inside the U.S. Space Force’s Push for Comme…

Building Space Together: Inside the U.S. Space Force’s Push for Commercial Collaboration | The Pair Program Ep80 In this episode of The Pair Program, host Tim Winkler is joined by Holly Bertrand, Founder and Chief Operating O...

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Nov. 11, 2025

AI at the Tactical Edge: Scaling Secure, Warfighter-Centric Tech in D…

AI at the Tactical Edge: Scaling Secure, Warfighter-Centric Tech in Denied Environments | The Pair Program Ep79 In this episode, host Tim Winkler sits down with Tyler Saltsman (Founder & CEO, EdgeRunner AI), Colton Malkerson ...

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Nov. 4, 2025

Sea Change: How Autonomy and Acquisition Will Shape the Future Fleet …

Sea Change: How Autonomy and Acquisition Will Shape the Future Fleet | The Pair Program Ep78 In this episode, hosts Tim Winkler and guest co-host Sean Leahy dive into the intersection of autonomy, AI, and defense acquisition ...

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Oct. 28, 2025

The Future of Autonomous Electronic Warfare in Multi-Domain Operation…

The Future of Autonomous Electronic Warfare in Multi-Domain Operations | The Pair Program Ep77 In this episode of The Pair Program, hosts Tim Winkler and Mike Gruen are joined by Nathan Mintz, Co-founder & CEO of CX2, and Dr....

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Oct. 21, 2025

Securing the Industrial Frontier with Frenos | The Pair Program Ep76

Securing the Industrial Frontier with Frenos | The Pair Program Ep76 In this episode, hosts Tim Winkler and Mike Gruen chat with Harry Thomas, CTO of Frenos, and Colin Murphy, Chief Hacking Officer at Frenos, two cybersecurit...

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Oct. 14, 2025

Generals in the Startup Trenches: Leading Defense Tech from Frontline…

Generals in the Startup Trenches: Leading Defense Tech from Frontlines to Frontiers | The Pair Program Ep75 In this episode of The Pair Program, hosts Tim Winkler and Mike Gruen sit down with two retired Army generals turned ...

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Oct. 7, 2025

Critical Tech, Critical Time | The Pair Program Ep74

Critical Tech, Critical Time | The Pair Program Ep74 In this episode, hosts Tim Winkler and Mike Gruen explore how startups and strategic investors are strengthening America’s innovation infrastructure. Nicholas Myers of Phoe...

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Sept. 30, 2025

How We Hatched: Nick Skytland, Director of Gloo Developer

How We Hatched: Nick Skytland, Director of Gloo Developer In this How We Hatched episode, we sit down with Nick Skytland, Director of Gloo Developer, to explore how values-aligned AI can shape a future where technology drives...

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Sept. 23, 2025

Capital Region Catalysts: How Synergos is Powering Deep-Tech in the D…

Capital Region Catalysts: How Synergos is Powering Deep-Tech in the DMV and Backing a Nuclear Pioneer | The Pair Program Ep73 On this episode of The Pair Program, hosts Tim Winkler and Mike Gruen sit down with Michelle Urben,...

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Sept. 16, 2025

Mission Critical: Building a Startup for America’s Next Fight | The P…

Mission Critical: Building a Startup for America’s Next Fight | The Pair Program Ep72 In this episode of The Pair Program, host Tim Winkler is joined by co-host Sean Leahy for a conversation with Andy Yakulis, CEO & Co-founde...

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Sept. 9, 2025

How We Hatched: Jennifer Sample, Chief Technology Officer at Empower …

How We Hatched: Jennifer Sample, Chief Technology Officer at Empower AI In this episode of How We Hatched, we sit down with Jennifer Sample, Chief Technology Officer at Empower AI, to explore her journey from chemistry to cut...

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Sept. 2, 2025

Orbit to Operations: Bridging Government and Industry in Defense Inno…

Orbit to Operations: Bridging Government and Industry in Defense Innovation | The Pair Program Ep71 On this week’s Pair Program, hosts Tim Winkler and Mike Gruen sit down with Topher Haddad, Co-founder/CEO of Albedo, and Arth...

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Aug. 25, 2025

Dual-Use, Double Impact: Privateer’s Path in Geospatial Intelligence …

Dual-Use, Double Impact: Privateer’s Path in Geospatial Intelligence | The Pair Program Ep70 In this episode of The Pair Program, we sit down with Mollie Martin, Director of GTM Strategy at Privateer, and Declan Lynch, Chief ...

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Aug. 19, 2025

Into the Drone Zone: Countering Aerial Threats to Critical Infrastruc…

Into the Drone Zone: Countering Aerial Threats to Critical Infrastructure | The Pair Program Ep69 Today’s episode features Yaniv Mendelson, Director of Business Development at Echodyne, and Tom Adams, Director of Public Safet...

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Aug. 12, 2025

From Navy Ops to AI Solutions: Modernizing Federal Service | The Pair…

From Navy Ops to AI Solutions: Modernizing Federal Service | The Pair Program Ep68 This episode of The Pair Program dives into how cutting-edge tools like AI can make federal service a more exciting, impactful career path. Dr...

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Aug. 5, 2025

Rebuilding the Arsenal: How Startups & Shipyards are Scaling the Futu…

Rebuilding the Arsenal: How Startups & Shipyards are Scaling the Future of Maritime Autonomy | The Pair Program Ep67 Today on The Pair Program, we’re joined by Paul Lwin, CEO and co-founder of HavocAI, and Daniel Brunk, CEO o...

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July 29, 2025

How We Hatched: Ryan Holmes, Founder & CEO of GreenT Climate Software

How We Hatched: Ryan Holmes, Founder & CEO of GreenT Climate Software In this bonus How We Hatched episode, we’re joined by Ryan Holmes, Founder & CEO of GreenT Climate Software, to explore how AI is reshaping sustainability ...

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